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		<title>By: Muscle and Brawn Forums Are Nazi Haters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muscle and Brawn Forums Are Nazi Haters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] referring to one of the first articles I posted here about Tim Ferriss&#8217; 30+ lb gain &#8211; link to my article &#8230; and &#8230; the article I was talking about by Tim. He&#8217;s a NY Times Best Selling [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] referring to one of the first articles I posted here about Tim Ferriss&#8217; 30+ lb gain &#8211; link to my article &#8230; and &#8230; the article I was talking about by Tim. He&#8217;s a NY Times Best Selling [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb_Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb_Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like enough to me.  </description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I&#039;m gonna try this but I can only take in 3500 calories and about 85-100 grams of protein. I&#039;m 123 pounds and I&#039;m 14. Will I still get gains? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I&#8217;m gonna try this but I can only take in 3500 calories and about 85-100 grams of protein. I&#8217;m 123 pounds and I&#8217;m 14. Will I still get gains?</p>
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		<title>By: TMW Fitness</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMW Fitness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 03:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Caleb, 
 
If we&#039;re presented with only 2 possibilities, those being 
1) He gained 34lbs lean muscle in 28 days, or 
2) He&#039;s lying 
 
It&#039;s got to be 2 
 
No one in the fitness industry takes him seriously, very few in the fitness forums take him seriously - you should hear the comments. He was also, albeit politely, challenged by a number of fitness professionals in the Telegraph paper.  
 
The people that have commented here have good reason to. People are better educated now, they can&#039;t be as easily tricked.  
 
He made a claim that was a bit too crazy. 
 
34 lbs is a tall order for steroid user, let alone for him. His methods are nothing special and have been thrown about before. 
 
His poses are strategic, the first intending to make him look small initially and much bigger in the second picture. I haven&#039;t put on 30lbs in the last couple of years but the difference in my body is much more pronounced than his.  
 
Also to lose 30 lbs would need a calorie deficit of 105,000 calories. Impossible with four hours work.  
 
I know this isn&#039;t your diet plan but the fact you believe this probably doesn&#039;t do you any favours. He&#039;s not a fitness or nutrition professional, neither are you. That&#039;s not a shot at you btw but the above posters are more knowledgeable on this matter. Its not a case for them to disprove it, it&#039;s a case for you or tim ferriss to prove. 
 
You can ask for those studies if you like, but I doubt you&#039;ll get them on paper.  
 
Regards 
 
T. M. Whittington 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Caleb, </p>
<p>If we&#39;re presented with only 2 possibilities, those being<br />
1) He gained 34lbs lean muscle in 28 days, or<br />
2) He&#39;s lying </p>
<p>It&#39;s got to be 2 </p>
<p>No one in the fitness industry takes him seriously, very few in the fitness forums take him seriously &#8211; you should hear the comments. He was also, albeit politely, challenged by a number of fitness professionals in the Telegraph paper.  </p>
<p>The people that have commented here have good reason to. People are better educated now, they can&#39;t be as easily tricked.  </p>
<p>He made a claim that was a bit too crazy. </p>
<p>34 lbs is a tall order for steroid user, let alone for him. His methods are nothing special and have been thrown about before. </p>
<p>His poses are strategic, the first intending to make him look small initially and much bigger in the second picture. I haven&#39;t put on 30lbs in the last couple of years but the difference in my body is much more pronounced than his.  </p>
<p>Also to lose 30 lbs would need a calorie deficit of 105,000 calories. Impossible with four hours work.  </p>
<p>I know this isn&#39;t your diet plan but the fact you believe this probably doesn&#39;t do you any favours. He&#39;s not a fitness or nutrition professional, neither are you. That&#39;s not a shot at you btw but the above posters are more knowledgeable on this matter. Its not a case for them to disprove it, it&#39;s a case for you or tim ferriss to prove. </p>
<p>You can ask for those studies if you like, but I doubt you&#39;ll get them on paper.  </p>
<p>Regards </p>
<p>T. M. Whittington</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb_Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb_Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 02:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. &quot;sorry&quot;.  
  
I&#039;m sorry for you.  
  
Straight from Tim&#039;s site:  
  
&quot;Before and after measurements, including underwater hydrostatic weighings, were taken by Dr. Peggy Plato at the Human Performance Laboratory at the San Jose State University, and I had blood tests taken on September 30 and October 20. Though this ridiculous experiment might seem unhealthy, I also dropped my total cholesterol count from 222 to 147 without the use of statins. No joke.&quot;  
  
If you don&#039;t believe the measurements/weight gain -- then go ahead and call the Human performance Laboratory in San Jose State University and talk to Dr. Plato and ask her if it&#039;s true or not.  
  
Tim is a New York Times Best-Selling author for over like 3 yrs -- come on -- you really think he would just tell straight up lies, then give the name of the doctor that did the measurements?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. &quot;sorry&quot;.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m sorry for you.  </p>
<p>Straight from Tim&#039;s site:  </p>
<p>&quot;Before and after measurements, including underwater hydrostatic weighings, were taken by Dr. Peggy Plato at the Human Performance Laboratory at the San Jose State University, and I had blood tests taken on September 30 and October 20. Though this ridiculous experiment might seem unhealthy, I also dropped my total cholesterol count from 222 to 147 without the use of statins. No joke.&quot;  </p>
<p>If you don&#039;t believe the measurements/weight gain &#8212; then go ahead and call the Human performance Laboratory in San Jose State University and talk to Dr. Plato and ask her if it&#039;s true or not.  </p>
<p>Tim is a New York Times Best-Selling author for over like 3 yrs &#8212; come on &#8212; you really think he would just tell straight up lies, then give the name of the doctor that did the measurements?</p>
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		<title>By: Sorry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK so his body got better within that time frame, not arguing with that, but not 34lb of lean muscle. There are so many tricks used in those before and after poses to make it look more impressive. First of all he stands closer to the camera on the after poses so that he appears bigger in general. Secondly, he does not flex in the before and does in the after. Thirdly, he rolls his shorts up for the after photos. Fourthly, he has shaved his torso and tanned which increases perception of size. Fifthly, his poses are different in, for example, the front shot to exaggerate his width (puffing up chest and holding arms away from body).  
 
In any case I would definitely not want his gains described in his measurements. An 18 inch neck but only a 14.6 inch upper arm? That&#039;s way out of proportion.  
 
It&#039;s a shame because you discredit your entire site which is mostly quite good with this. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK so his body got better within that time frame, not arguing with that, but not 34lb of lean muscle. There are so many tricks used in those before and after poses to make it look more impressive. First of all he stands closer to the camera on the after poses so that he appears bigger in general. Secondly, he does not flex in the before and does in the after. Thirdly, he rolls his shorts up for the after photos. Fourthly, he has shaved his torso and tanned which increases perception of size. Fifthly, his poses are different in, for example, the front shot to exaggerate his width (puffing up chest and holding arms away from body).  </p>
<p>In any case I would definitely not want his gains described in his measurements. An 18 inch neck but only a 14.6 inch upper arm? That&#39;s way out of proportion.  </p>
<p>It&#39;s a shame because you discredit your entire site which is mostly quite good with this.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb_Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb_Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, it&#039;s real. Reason why it&#039;s possible is he was heavier before ... lost muscle mass ... and your muscles have a sort of &quot;memory&quot; and it&#039;s a LOT easier to regain the previous muscle mass you had before than build more new muscle. Make sense?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, it&#39;s real. Reason why it&#39;s possible is he was heavier before &#8230; lost muscle mass &#8230; and your muscles have a sort of &quot;memory&quot; and it&#39;s a LOT easier to regain the previous muscle mass you had before than build more new muscle. Make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 05:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caleb, it&#039;s been quite a while since I last posted what I did. I happened to come across this again.

I understand what you&#039;ve said, though I still stand by my opinion when I say he&#039;s a fraud. I know it, because 4.8lbs of pure, lean muscle mass is impossible to gain within a week&#039;s time, and has never been done, even with the assistance of steroids on a pubescent who eats twice as much calories and especially with such a terrible, insufficient routine (which is the average rate he would have been going). It is physiologically impossible. I also look at his back double bicep pose, and if you look closer, none of his muscles are being flexed. It&#039;s even more obvious when you see the lack of strain in his wrists. He seems to want to make as much of a difference as possible. The same goes for the last picture, why is he only flexing his lats far more than necessary in the &#039;after&#039; picture? Why aren&#039;t the pictures taken at the same distances so we can truely compare them? I could probably take a guess...

Finally, if it were 34lbs of newly developed muscle, he should have been published in some science book by now. Because he&#039;s a medical marvel. I admit that a 30lb gain in 12 weeks is believeable... but that&#039;s for a 16 year old on an intelligent mass routine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caleb, it&#8217;s been quite a while since I last posted what I did. I happened to come across this again.</p>
<p>I understand what you&#8217;ve said, though I still stand by my opinion when I say he&#8217;s a fraud. I know it, because 4.8lbs of pure, lean muscle mass is impossible to gain within a week&#8217;s time, and has never been done, even with the assistance of steroids on a pubescent who eats twice as much calories and especially with such a terrible, insufficient routine (which is the average rate he would have been going). It is physiologically impossible. I also look at his back double bicep pose, and if you look closer, none of his muscles are being flexed. It&#8217;s even more obvious when you see the lack of strain in his wrists. He seems to want to make as much of a difference as possible. The same goes for the last picture, why is he only flexing his lats far more than necessary in the &#8216;after&#8217; picture? Why aren&#8217;t the pictures taken at the same distances so we can truely compare them? I could probably take a guess&#8230;</p>
<p>Finally, if it were 34lbs of newly developed muscle, he should have been published in some science book by now. Because he&#8217;s a medical marvel. I admit that a 30lb gain in 12 weeks is believeable&#8230; but that&#8217;s for a 16 year old on an intelligent mass routine.</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Aaron: sorry, but you&#039;ve provided no proof other than &quot;I think he should look stronger, bigger and more vascular with 30+ lbs more muscle&quot;.

People gain muscle in different places and in different ways. One thing most people don&#039;t notice, is when you start doing the &quot;core&quot; muscle building exercises like squats and deadlifts, you put a LOT of weight on your butt, legs, thighs, and back. The Big muscles that most bodybuilding routines completely ignore ... because they&#039;re not the &quot;show&quot; muscles.

Another thing to remember is the &quot;density&quot; of certain types of muscle. I have a friend that looks about 15-20lbs bigger than me because he has focused on more bodybuilding type routines which build sarcoplasmic hypertrophy in muscles (giving them a bigger, pumped up look) and I&#039;ve done mostly strength training. While I don&#039;t look as big, we&#039;re only about a 5-10lb difference in weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aaron: sorry, but you&#8217;ve provided no proof other than &#8220;I think he should look stronger, bigger and more vascular with 30+ lbs more muscle&#8221;.</p>
<p>People gain muscle in different places and in different ways. One thing most people don&#8217;t notice, is when you start doing the &#8220;core&#8221; muscle building exercises like squats and deadlifts, you put a LOT of weight on your butt, legs, thighs, and back. The Big muscles that most bodybuilding routines completely ignore &#8230; because they&#8217;re not the &#8220;show&#8221; muscles.</p>
<p>Another thing to remember is the &#8220;density&#8221; of certain types of muscle. I have a friend that looks about 15-20lbs bigger than me because he has focused on more bodybuilding type routines which build sarcoplasmic hypertrophy in muscles (giving them a bigger, pumped up look) and I&#8217;ve done mostly strength training. While I don&#8217;t look as big, we&#8217;re only about a 5-10lb difference in weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a lie. Or, if you prefer, a gigantic misunderstanding.

34 lbs of muscle, he says. &quot;Exhaustive analysis of muscular hypertrophy&quot;, he says. As you may have noticed, I am quite angry at this. If there really is 31lbs of difference between those photos, then I feel sorry for how his body portrays that. I know many bodybuilders who have yet to attain that amount of muscle. Even I, who&#039;ve been training heavily for over a year has accumilated just over 20lbs, yet my physical appearance looks stronger and more vascular?

Yes, I am angry. I&#039;m angry that he has allowed himself to post such nonsense on his website. He seems an intelligent man, so I can only assume that he&#039;s in it for the advertisement. Just another target audience to flock to his site, and perhaps his book. The pictures that apparently display &#039;proof&#039; are by no means impressive for THRITY FOUR POUNDS of muscle. Pshh, i&#039;ll leave it for the dreamers and the people he fools.

He must have mistaken muscle for water retention and muscle memory. ASSUMING it is a genuine article. Which i&#039;m afraid it&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a lie. Or, if you prefer, a gigantic misunderstanding.</p>
<p>34 lbs of muscle, he says. &#8220;Exhaustive analysis of muscular hypertrophy&#8221;, he says. As you may have noticed, I am quite angry at this. If there really is 31lbs of difference between those photos, then I feel sorry for how his body portrays that. I know many bodybuilders who have yet to attain that amount of muscle. Even I, who&#8217;ve been training heavily for over a year has accumilated just over 20lbs, yet my physical appearance looks stronger and more vascular?</p>
<p>Yes, I am angry. I&#8217;m angry that he has allowed himself to post such nonsense on his website. He seems an intelligent man, so I can only assume that he&#8217;s in it for the advertisement. Just another target audience to flock to his site, and perhaps his book. The pictures that apparently display &#8216;proof&#8217; are by no means impressive for THRITY FOUR POUNDS of muscle. Pshh, i&#8217;ll leave it for the dreamers and the people he fools.</p>
<p>He must have mistaken muscle for water retention and muscle memory. ASSUMING it is a genuine article. Which i&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s not.</p>
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